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Revelation end of chapter 11 with 1st verse of 12 has satan standing on the shore ... looking at America from the shores of the continent ... then the bible regurgitates the first 11 chapters as does in Genesis in the creation, assimilation, and elimination. Yes
 

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Revelation end of chapter 11 with 1st verse of 12 has satan standing on the shore ... looking at America from the shores of the continent ... then the bible regurgitates the first 11 chapters as does in Genesis in the creation, assimilation, and elimination. Yes

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars;
Revelation 11:19-12:1

It looks like it is about the ark in the heavenly temple in relation to the woman clothed with the sun standing on the moon and with a crown of twelve stars.
 

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Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars;
Revelation 11:19-12:1

It looks like it is about the ark in the heavenly temple in relation to the woman clothed with the sun standing on the moon and with a crown of twelve stars.

hmm that wasn’t the scripture. I’ve forgotten what I had studied of endtimes. Psalm 91 Bill may be able to elaborate some perhaps on where the beast is standing .
 

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Every empire falls. The US will not be an exception. What happens in the vacuum may be a genocide of vast proportions. Australia will not be exempt...
 

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hmm that wasn’t the scripture. I’ve forgotten what I had studied of endtimes. Psalm 91 Bill may be able to elaborate some perhaps on where the beast is standing .
We are told that the antichrist will be in the temple and the beast is right with him as he extolls the antichrist as the saviour. I also believe that America will come down soon simply because I cant find her in end time prohecy and we stand in the way of an invasion of Israel which we know will happen in the tribulation. I doubt it is all that far off
 

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We are told that the antichrist will be in the temple and the beast is right with him as he extolls the antichrist as the saviour. I also believe that America will come down soon simply because I cant find her in end time prohecy and we stand in the way of an invasion of Israel which we know will happen in the tribulation. I doubt it is all that far off
It was the end of 12 I was thinking of ..
17And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.
 

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It was the end of 12 I was thinking of ..
17And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.

The woman clothed with the sun and standing on the moon and with twelve stars as a crown on her head gave birth to Christ. I do not see how she could be the USA.
 

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The woman clothed with the sun and standing on the moon and with twelve stars as a crown on her head gave birth to Christ. I do not see how she could be the USA.
That’s Virgo the beginning of the witness of the stars. Looking from Europe the site of much religious superstition toward the children across the sea of Puritanism which isn’t superstition but realism or said another way, biblically speaking.
 

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That’s Virgo the beginning of the witness of the stars. Looking from Europe the site of much religious superstition toward the children across the sea of Puritanism which isn’t superstition but realism or said another way, biblically speaking.

Are you thinking clearly? The woman gives birth to Jesus Christ, she cannot be an astrological sign such a Virgo.
she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,
Revelation 12:5
 

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Are you thinking clearly? The woman gives birth to Jesus Christ, she cannot be an astrological sign such a Virgo.
she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,
Revelation 12:5
There’s some great books available such as God’s Voice in the Stars Kenneth c Fleming that’s on the table beside me that delves into the prophesies and they were brought to life with the birth of Christ.

During King Herods time the wise men brought news of the stars, see star of bethlehem film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUlWa2r-bk
 

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There’s some great books available such as God’s Voice in the Stars Kenneth c Fleming that’s on the table beside me that delves into the prophesies and they were brought to life with the birth of Christ.

During King Herods time the wise men brought news of the stars, see star of bethlehem film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUlWa2r-bk
I have a book on the Mazzaroth (Not to be confused with astrology/zodiac fortune tellings etc...) that does a great job of illustrating the Word in the stars, the heavens declare and I believe the bible speaks of them as being conscious.
I do believe the 'sign' in heaven of the women being clothed with the sun and giving birth may have been fulfilled a few September's ago, but it was shortly brushed off because they made spectacle out of it by saying it was the end of the world thus becoming a joke. I honestly believe it was significant.

I was watching a video last night on youtube and had to screen shot something I thought was interesting...
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I have a book on the Mazzaroth (Not to be confused with astrology/zodiac fortune tellings etc...) that does a great job of illustrating the Word in the stars, the heavens declare and I believe the bible speaks of them as being conscious.
I do believe the 'sign' in heaven of the women being clothed with the sun and giving birth may have been fulfilled a few September's ago, but it was shortly brushed off because they made spectacle out of it by saying it was the end of the world thus becoming a joke. I honestly believe it was significant.

I was watching a video last night on youtube and had to screen shot something I thought was interesting...
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I have Mazzaroth too but the technicality that she wrote from ~ Francess Rollenston~ I think was around the 1700’s? but I have more contemporary readings too.
I think the 4 blood moons on the Jewish holidays were signs, but to the Jewish nation.
 

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Ultimately all empires fail, usually caused by the very things that once made them great. As Margaret Thatcher once said, the problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples' money to spend. And as the burden of more and more free stuff for the masses turns into more and more taxes on a decreasing number of people paying the taxes, sooner or later something has to give. When it does, politicians of all stripes and flavors have done such a good job of pitting one group against another that we can be sure it's going to be ugly. Whether it's black against white, old against young, citizen against immigrant, man against woman, gay against straight, there's going to be a whole lot of finger-pointing going on.

Demographics is the only study that is needed to show how badly broken things are. In decades gone past couples typically married young and had children. Families were larger then, so couples were replacing themselves with maybe a spare or two thrown in. As their children grew older they married and had children. The result was that as older people retired and drew retirement funds they were replaced with more and more people joining the workforce. Essentially the group of economically unproductive people stayed more or less the same, while the group of economically productive people grew (to be clear, in this context I'm using the term "economically unproductive" to refer to anyone who isn't working regardless of the reason - be they idle, disabled, retired, whatever). Now with the expectation of earlier retirement, longer lifespans, and a growing welfare state that requires little to nothing of its beneficiaries, working couples can't afford to have so many children so they marry later and have fewer children while the economically unproductive tend to have more children. The result is more and more people who are economically unproductive. The automation of much of industry has done away with a lot of jobs, making it more likely that people who might have worked in those fields are economically unproductive as there are fewer jobs available. Hence a diminishing body of economically productive people are carrying a growing body of economically unproductive people. And of course along the way globalisation has made it possible for companies to grow ever-larger and shift income around the world at a stroke of a pen, reducing the amount they pay in taxes and shifting more of the burden onto the already struggling middle classes. It doesn't take a genius to see the whole thing collapsing, nor does it take a genius to figure that the left and the right are little more than two sides of the same coin, set up so that each can blame the other and distract the people from how they have been plundered.

In historic times empires grew by conquering neighboring areas and then funded the expansion by levying taxes on the newly conquered areas. These days it seems we spend vast sums on conquering far-flung areas, then instead of levying taxes on them we spend further vast sums rebuilding everything. It's good if you're one of the favored contractors who gets to either supply the bombs to destroy it or the construction services to rebuild it, but not so good if your Joe Taxpayer who gets stuck with the bill for both sides.
 

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Interesting to the times is that in the houses of the zodiac are various stars and structures. Near the end of the twelve (I was trying to find the cheatsheet of patterns but misplaced it) there’s the woman chained but then the woman loosed, which reminded of the times today. Interesting read.
 

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I reject astrology as a source for Christian theology.
 

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It’s not astrology. It’s astronomy :smirk:

No, Virgo is an astrological star sign. It may be used by people nowadays for astronomical identification but it is astrology through and through.
 
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