Numbers in the bible...yet numerology is bad!

On the math sites I help moderate/administrate, posting numerological "stuff" will get you banned just as quickly as posting spam.

bill1231 said:

Everything in the context of God. Astrology is bad but we are told to look to the heavens for Gods timetable and for signs

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I ask our Father a lot of questions.And this is one of a few. Here is what I understand. Astrology, and numerology are forms of divination. But, Astronomy and mathematics are worthwhile studies for mankind to undertake.

Numerology and Astrology become idolatry when you seek their guidance, rather than observational, they become directional. When yuou are reading scripture and you come across a number, most of the time it is just history. Some numbers are obviously purposeful in meaning: sevens, twelves, forties and, to some degree threes. Using numbers to interpret scriptures rather than relying upon the mind that God has given you and the illumination of the Holy Spirit, becomes a distorted methodology.

Brighten04 said:

I ask our Father a lot of questions.And this is one of a few. Here is what I understand. Astrology, and numerology are forms of divination. But, Astronomy and mathematics are worthwhile studies for mankind to undertake.

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i was hopig some one would point that out as i started scrolling the thread .. and you did ..

Lämmchen said:

We see in the bible that numbers have a deep meaning...7s are good 666 is bad.

God frowns upon numerology in our lives yet numbers have such significance in scripture.

Even our fearless leader Romanos should beware:

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If Revelation is a guide, then using numerology to reveal or make a discovery is not "bad".

As for 666, there is a ton of clues in the Bible as to who this is, and what it represents. It is not "bad", it is number code that is meant to be pondered and figured out. Most everyone is looking forward though - and trying to fit it to something modern, like a bar code - or a religious institution (in which case that is partly correct) - but instead they should be looking back and understanding that Hebrew letters represent sounds as well as numbers. Plug in the numbers to names and a piece of the puzzle is rectified.

bill1231 said:

Please fill us in as to that piece of the puzzle

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Someone today is known usually by 2 names, their first and last. For more specificity, they have a middle name.

In much earlier times, people were often known by their name and the town they were from. Eg: Jesus of Nazareth.

Where does Shaul/Paul come from? Tarsus. His birthplace is Tarsus.

Spelled in Hebrew, by sound, without vowels or vowel indicators that are used in modern Hebrew: TRSU

Add the letters: Tav(400), Resh(200), Samekh(60), Vav(6)

Vav has (V,O,U) sounds as in veh, oh, OO

Call that reaching. Perhaps. But Tarsus in Greek means "a flat basket". <---baskets aren't flat, because if they were they wouldn't hold anything.
Saul/Paul's original name means "asked for", "hell", "underworld" in Hebrew (depending on context)
Paul - the name he adopted means "small" or "least" in Greek.

Shaul ("asked for", "hell", "underwold") comes from TRSU (Literal Hebrew sounding adds to 666), which in Greek means "a flat basket"(ie: doesn't hold anything), and adopts the name "Paul" (little, small, least) after a conversion that has no named witnesses and revelations that only he himself can give testimony of.

Behold the antichrist:



Seriously, it's true. Everybody knows Barney is a cute purple dinosaur. Let's look at this using Roman lettering:

CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

Knock out the letters that aren't Roman numerals:

CV VL DIV

Rearrange:

DCLVVVI = 666

tango said:

Behold the antichrist:

Seriously, it's true. Everybody knows Barney is a cute purple dinosaur. Let's look at this using Roman lettering:

CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR

Knock out the letters that aren't Roman numerals:

CV VL DIV

Rearrange:

DCLVVVI = 666

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No need to knock out or rearrange any letters in the sounding of the birthplace of Shaul/Paul of Tarsus in Hebrew.

Saul/Paul is also from the tribe of Benjamin, by his own admission. In Genesis, this tribe is described:

Genesis 49:27

Anyone familiar with Yeshua's warning about ravenous wolves could make at least a tenuous connection.

Unlike Barney the Dinosaur, a person drunk on wine that misleads the masses is mentioned 666 years prior to his Epistle to the Ephesians - who, incidentally, and by his own admission - reject him. The book referred to is Habakkuk. "Minor" prophet. Chapter 2.

Saul/Paul's testimony of what God is supposed to have said to him on the road to Damascus is partially quoted directly from the Bacchae, written by Euripides, some 400 years prior. The quote comes from one of the main characters - Dyonisus - a son of Zeus and the Greek god of (oh the coincidence) - WINE.

We are meant to believe this quote from The Bacchae is from Almighty God, who apparently needs to quote a greek god - a son of Zeus, to identify himself to Shaul/Paul.

There are other indicators, some already mentioned. No special creativity or additions needed to make multiple connections between 666 and Saul/Paul.

Not sorry if this offends. I expect it will. Check out the statements for truth and one will find that they are accurate.