THE COMING FALSE MESSIAH IN JERUSALEM

[SetFree]

BRETHREN IN CHRIST JESUS:

Those of us in Christ SEALED by The Holy Spirit do not need be concerned about the events of the END leading up to Lord Jesus' 2nd coming; we need to be On WATCH with those Signs Jesus gave. That coming FALSE-MESSIAH will not... be a temptation to us, but instead an abomination. He cannot force us to bow in worship to him.

That false-Messiah will be Satan himself, with his angels, here on earth in plain sight. According to God's parable about him using the "king of Tyrus" as a type, Satan will be literally destroyed right here on earth at the sight of men who will see it, a fire from inside himself will consume him to ashes upon this earth (Ezekiel 28:18).

Don't ask me how... those of that Spirit dimension can come to earth and appear in plain sight here on earth, and even eat our food (See Genesis 18 about the "three men" that appeared to Abraham, and one of the three was The Lord; then see Genesis 19 about the two men, or angels, that appeared to Lot).

Even in Hebrews 13 Paul told us to be mindful to entertain strangers, because some have entertained angels and didn't know it. This means there are similarities between the two dimensions of this earthly one and the heavenly one. With this coming false-Messiah (the dragon) to Jerusalem for the end, he is going to be doing supernatural great signs and wonders, miracles, to deceive the world with.

And what a ripe time it is today with today's world that is so wrapped up in scientific materialism, and tend to laugh at these kind of things mentioned in God's Word. Those are ripen to be deceived by Satan and his angels when they show up on this earth in plain sight.

Yet Lord Jesus told us, His elect, to not fear, that not even one hair on our head would be harmed. And in our patience to keep our souls (Luke 21). Our duty during this will be to give a TESTIMONY FOR JESUS against the beast, with allowing The Holy Spirit to speak through us. Jesus said even the gainsayer won't be able to resist what The Holy Spirit will speak through us in that 'hour' of our being delivered up. Do not fear, for that event is going to pour salt upon the tail of that dragon.

 

[SetFree]

I agree that this or any eschatological view would not be heretical or in itself contrary in any way to the gospel or any of what is essential in Christianity. I am very sure of my own view, it does not agree with others from whom I have heard, while we are Christians.

The events will happen as written in The Word of God. Now the question is though, who is actually following The Word of God as it is written, and who instead is following their own beliefs or men's traditions instead? It is the job of every believing Christian to find that out, meaning those who are able to do that.

 

[jswauto]

'we are safe' because we are not in Israel type message, but that message is false, and not Biblical.

-Here's an example of another place not to hide (& it's judgement must happen early in the tribulation):

THE FULL BIBLICAL CRITERIA FOR BABYLON (Rev 17–18)
When you stack all the characteristics together, the picture becomes razor‑sharp.
1. A global economic hub
• Merchants of the earth grow rich from her
• All shipping lanes depend on her
• Luxury goods flow through her
• She traffics in “bodies and souls of men”
• Her collapse destroys global trade
• enrich the merchants of the earth
Revelation 18:11–13, 17–19.
This is economic gravity on a world scale.
This is economic dominance on a world scale.
2. A global cultural‑moral influencer
• She seduces nations
• She spreads immorality
• She intoxicates kings
• She exports her culture
• commerce
• culture
• politics
• spiritual influence
Revelation 17:15; 18:3, 9, 11, 17–19.
This is not a regional power. It is a global hub.
This is cultural hegemony.
3. A global political influencer
• Kings commit immorality with her
• She sits on many waters (peoples, nations, languages)
• She rides the Beast (influence over political power)
This is soft power + political leverage.
4. A persecutor of God’s people
• Drunk with the blood of saints
• Responsible for the deaths of prophets and righteous people
This is religious hostility.
The city must have a long history of:
• killing prophets
• killing saints
• killing righteous people
Revelation 17:6; 18:24.
This is not a new nation.
It is a historic persecutor.
5. A place where God’s people live
• “Come out of her, My people”
• They must flee before judgment
This is mixed population.
6. A sudden, catastrophic destruction
• “In one hour your judgment has come”
• “In one hour she is made desolate”
• “In one hour great riches come to nothing”
• A millstone thrown into the sea
• is burned with fire
• becomes uninhabited
• becomes a haunt of demons
Revelation 18:8–10, 17, 19, 21–23.
This is instant destruction, not gradual decline.
This is instant collapse.

7. Destroyed by the Beast and Ten Kings
A. The Ten Kings
Revelation 17:16
They:
• hate her
• burn her
• strip her

B. The Beast (Antichrist)
He participates in the destruction because:
• he wants religious control
• Babylon is a rival system
• he must eliminate her to establish his own worship
C. God
Revelation 17:17

God orchestrates the betrayal:
• “God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose.”
Babylon’s fall is divine judgment executed through political actors.

• Her destruction is contrived by the Lord, put in the hearts of the antichrist, betrayal by the Ten kings
• The Antichrist uses her, then eliminates her
This is political replacement by destruction.

8. Complete Summary: What a City Must Be to Qualify as Mystery Babylon
A qualifying city must be:
• a global economic hub
• a global cultural influencer
• a global political influencer
• a global religious/spiritual system
• a historic persecutor
• a port/shipping center
• a luxury capital
• a center of sorcery/deception
• a city where believers live
• a city the Beast uses and then destroys
• a city that collapses in one hour
• a city whose fall collapses world trade
• a city that becomes permanently desolate
This is the full biblical profile, with nothing omitted.

WHEN YOU STACK THESE TOGETHER…
There are not many locations on earth that match all of this.
Most nations fail the test at multiple points.
Most cities fail even faster.
Most regions don’t come close.
A qualifying city must be:
• a global economic hub
• a global cultural influencer
• a global political influencer
• a global religious/spiritual system
• a historic persecutor
• a port/shipping center
• a luxury capital
• a center of sorcery/deception
• a city where believers live
• a city the Beast uses and then destroys
• a city that collapses in one hour
• a city whose fall collapses world trade
• a city that becomes permanently desolate
This is the full biblical profile, with nothing omitted.

And her fall collapses the world economy instantly.
That narrows the field dramatically.

Can You See the Hatred the Lord has for Babylon? Two Whole Chapters in Revelation Dedicated to Babylon. And Don't Forget: Judgement in 1 Hour!!

Don't hide there during the tribulation!!

 

[jswauto]

Greetings in Christ JESUS, dear brothers and sisters

Is this you, or is there an imposter in our midst?

 

[Frankj]

That narrows the field dramatically.

Right offhand, I'd say there is no single country in the world that meets all of those requirements.

But I imagine that there will be after WWIII which I am expecting to fully set the stage for the final days.

 

[Oseas]

Is this you, or is there an imposter in our midst?

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It's me, but I do not remember the site I used Oseas3.

 

[jswauto]

It's me, but I do not remember the site I used Oseas3.

It would be this site: Christianity Haven

 

[SetFree]

-Here's an example of another place not to hide (& it's judgement must happen early in the tribulation):

THE FULL BIBLICAL CRITERIA FOR BABYLON (Rev 17–18)
When you stack all the characteristics together, the picture becomes razor‑sharp.
....

Per the last verse of Revelation 17, the symbolic "woman" of that Chapter, the Babylon Harlot, is a "great city". It has NOT... come to power yet today, and it will NOT be Rome. The Revelation 11:8 verse reveals where that "great city" is. It is where our Lord Jesus was crucified, JERUSALEM.

But today, JERUSALEM does not yet fit all those outlines you like to make, which you got from the doctrines of men's interpretation mostly of Revelation 18 about symbolic Babylon.

The reason men's doctrines make this mistake you are making about the Babylon Harlot of Revelation is mostly because of old Reformation doctrine from the 16th century Europe when Protestants began to separate from the Catholic Church, and persecution came of it.
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Bible Scripture, as I have shown on this Thread, reveals that the coming Antichrist will play CHRIST in JERUSALEM, not Rome. The Scriptures also reveal it will be Satan himself, de facto here on earth in plain sight working great signs and wonders to trick the world into believing he is God. And until that happens, with the "dragon" and his angels being booted out of the heavenly down to earth in OUR dimension, and taking power over all nations from JERUSALEM, then those things about the Babylon Harlot will not apply.

And those preachers who jump the gun on trying to point to Rome or any other place than JERUSALEM for only when the false-Messiah shows up there, reveal they are not paying attention to God's Word about a coming FALSE-MESSIAH to Jerusalem for the END of this world.

 

[Oseas]

It's me, but I do not remember the site I used Oseas3.

Thank you for your information. Honestly, I do not know the why it happened.

 

[jswauto]

Thank you for your information. Honestly, I do not know the why it happened.

If you look around hard enough, you can find your other self. There's at least one thread that you are both on. I would of sent you the link, but I couldn't remember the thread.

 

[SetFree]

Remember brethren, it is JERUSALEM... that has already been declared the "International City of Peace". Some folks here were just too young to remember about that declaration for Jerusalem decades ago. The U.N. resolution of 1947 specifically had that purpose in mind for the city of Jerusalem to be an international city. And that idea is about world globalism, or if one prefers, a New World Order, or "one world government", or the ten horn beast kingdom of Revelation 13:1.

Because God's Word reveals that one-world beast kingdom will... happen at the END, it also means JERUSALEM as a Global international city as outlined by the globalists is not going to go away.

So like Indiana Jones' Egyptian digging friend said in the movie Raiders of The Lost Ark, "They're diggin' in the wrong place," i.e., diggin' about Rome when they ought to be diggin' their view toward Jerusalem.

 

[Oseas]

If you look around hard enough, you can find your other self. There's at least one thread that you are both on. I would of sent you the link, but I couldn't remember the thread.

Okay. I found the topic: It's Predestination, post #38. :-> Predestination
Anyway, what prevails is the current which we see now.

 

[FredVB]

The events will happen as written in The Word of God. Now the question is though, who is actually following The Word of God as it is written, and who instead is following their own beliefs or men's traditions instead? It is the job of every believing Christian to find that out, meaning those who are able to do that.

That is the thing though. What is it that is written in The Word of God that many believe, about the events which happen? I am not disagreeing to follow what is said in the Bible, so there should not be argument with that. But what is it that you can say is right that others saying what events would happen would be shown wrong? Are you saying that those others are heretical or contrary to the gospel? Can you show how that is the case? Why would you say that I am wrong? I have not said an actual position I hold here.

 

[SetFree]

That is the thing though. What is it that is written in The Word of God that many believe, about the events which happen? I am not disagreeing to follow what is said in the Bible, so there should not be argument with that. But what is it that you can say is right that others saying what events would happen would be shown wrong? Are you saying that those others are heretical or contrary to the gospel? Can you show how that is the case? Why would you say that I am wrong? I have not said an actual position I hold here.

Logical question(s), but still full of assumptions.

And you cannot just use the word 'Gospel' to refer what all I have been covering that is written in God's Word. I'm not teaching against The Gospel of Jesus Christ, not against His Word, but only following more of His Word that most are too lazy to study for themselves. Their laziness is not my fault. Nor is their putting their faith in some preacher with a bunch credentials on the end of his name that keeps them sucking on the milk bottle, teaching instead the traditions of men. That those in Christ were actually warned about, so brethren have no excuse with putting their faith in men. We are always to verify in God's Word for ourselves, that is, those who are able.

Honestly, today, where can the believer go and actually find The Word of God taught line upon line, chapter by chapter? Even though The Gospel can be found in just about every Book of The Bible, it is not the only subject in those other Books, and this includes The Four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). The Four Gospels also contain Bible prophecy of the main Signs of the end of this world leading up to Lord Jesus' future return. Ever heard that preached as part of The Gospel? It isn't really, even though it is contained in those New Testament Gospel Books. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is about Lord Jesus' Ministry here on earth at His 1st coming, His death and resurrection and His work done with His disciples that He sent to preach The Gospel (the Great Commission), and His ascension to the right hand of The Father's Throne in Heaven, His Kingdom still expecting until all His enemies are made His footstool.

Moreover, for someone who has not done their Old Testament study homework, they are not going to recognize when The New Testament is giving a parable or metaphor that first appeared in the Old Testament prophets, etc. How many Churches today do you know of that covers those metaphors as they appear in The New Testament? Can you explain what Jesus meant in Luke 23:26-31 when speaking to the daughters of Jerusalem that cried for Him bearing His cross to be crucified? How can you, if you hadn't studied what He quoted there from the Old Testament first?

Matt 13:52
52 Then said He unto them, "Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old."
KJV

Lord Jesus was referring to how that "treasure" involves the weaving of both... Old and New Testament Books. Lord Jesus said that right after He had explained His parable of the wheat and tares. Ever heard that wheat and tares parable explained in a Church? If I have, it is usually the preacher trying to turn Jesus' explanation in the Matthew 13:36-43 into just another parable, when He meant that explanation literally. Most just are not able to handle its truth emotionally. The identity of the "tares" is given in the Old Testament Scriptures. Their working within the Church until Jesus comes is given in the New Testament Scriptures, and even some bits of Old Testament history.

Also things like the Samaritan woman at the well. Who did her five husbands she had had represent, and who would her 6th lover represent? That's a combination of two major Old Testament truths, one about the Assyrians planting pagan peoples from five provinces of Babylon into the northern holy lands where the ten tribes were removed from, and became known as Samaritans. That's where Jesus and the Samaritan woman was at in John 4, where the northern ten tribes had been before being removed. Did you even notice the abrupt... change of subject from the Samaritan woman's husbands and present lover went from that to her declaring where her fathers worshiped? (John 4:19-21) The other part of that is how Lord Jesus used His metaphor from Isaiah that He is our True Husband, in the spiritual sense. Apostle Paul even used that metaphor in 2 Corinthians 11. Why... are we not hearing these explanations in all the Churches today? It's most definitely Biblical, so it shouldn't sound like some mysterious explanation just because the majority haven't heard it in their Church.

God explained why this is happening also in His Word, but... where He explained isn't found in the New Testament Books. It's in the Old Testament Books with a short prophecy about the END that many at the end would look for The Word of God and not find it. Why? Because only a small portion of it is actually being covered in most Churches. When a brother in Christ asked me why his Sunday school class didn't cover all of The Bible line upon, chapter by chapter, I recommended that he ask his Bible teacher that question, but don't expect an answer he would like. He did ask, and his Bible Sunday school teacher said something like, "You must think we have all the time in the world?", and then his teacher laughed at him, my friend said.

As for when or if I remarked about you being wrong on something, you'd have to present that on case-by-case basis. I don't catalog what everyone says on forums.

 

[jswauto]

others saying what events would happen would be shown wrong

It's not a question of what you want to believe. It's a question of giving you (persons looking for answers of that sort) the answers so that you're not deceived in your relationship with the Lord due to misunderstandings of the endtime events. That would be the worst possible outcome: Christians lost because of misunderstandings in doctrines and being swept away by the evil one. That's one of the only reasons for presenting these explanations of endtime events. It's not to debate with the high hand of scriptural understanding and make everyone else look like uneducated bafoons.

As we understand scriptures of salvation, sin, the 10 Commandments, the endtime scriptures are understandable. It may require more Spirit-filled study, but they are understandable and defined in their meanings, depictions, and sequences of prophesies still to be fulfilled.